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Posted on April 13 at 3:51 p.m.
@Phir - "Why are you holding UCSB students responsible for the incident?"
No UCSB students were there? maybe it was wrong for me to generalize them like that, but still, I would guess that the majority of the attendees were UCSB students... Just a guess.... Still doesn't take away from the fact that the environment was completely disrespected.
@Hank- well said.
1 day of Floatopia Trash = an entire summers worth of trash at any other south coast beach? That's a lot of trash.
It's a good thing they only try to do it once a year. Maybe next time they will act responsibly and pick up their ******* trash.
On Buoyed by Beer, Floatopia Survives on Land
Posted on April 12 at 8:55 p.m.
No I think that the amount of trash left behind was obscene. Which it was. Disagree?
Posted on April 12 at 6:05 p.m.
"I think Floatopia 2009 had less impact than 10,000 or 20,000 beach visits elsewhere on the South Coast."
Which is obscene.
Posted on April 12 at 2:49 p.m.
Never once did I ignore the clean up efforts, I actually applauded them. The fact that they couldn't possibly clean up everything that was left behind is still just that - a fact. There never should have been that amount of trash to begin with, and that is my point. There just is no way to justify it, no matter how hard you try....entirely inexcusable.
I'm not calling for a ban on all beach usage.... That would be ridiculous. But for you to say that the trash generated by floatopia is equal to any other day at Arroyo Burro or wherever is insane.
Your argument is weak, which is probably why you keep trying to point the finger at other events.
Posted on April 12 at 12:01 p.m.
So SB beaches get trashed like IV beach after Floatopia? Hah. Nice try. Fiesta? Fiesta has nothing to do with it. No matter how hard you try to change the subject and deflect the issue, it's not going to make it go away. Yes there was clean up by some responsible people. I get it. The point is that the beach never should have been trashed like it was in the first place. Do you seriously think that this criticism is unfair?
rc251- good question.. I wonder if the revenue from the citations and such offset the $$$ that the county spent babysitting. But that's not really the issue I have with it. It is the fact that the environment was completely disrespected by USCB students who generally claim to be pro-environment.
Posted on April 12 at 11:21 a.m.
So what was inaccurate? Was the beach not trashed last year? Did people not fall off the cliffs? Was there no arrests or citations? Did the county not have to spend $20,000 dollars babysitting?
Posted on April 10 at 1:44 p.m.
... and after watching that video again, I saw a total of 1 person actually pick something up, and all she did was put her cup into a larger pile. sad.
On County Declares 'No Float Zone'
Posted on April 10 at 1:34 p.m.
Maybe if the environment wasn't completely disrespected, and the county wasn't forced to spend $20,000 to babysit the first time, they wouldn't be taking away your "fun".
For every action there is a reaction, however drastic it may be.
On What's Wrong with Fun?
Posted on April 10 at 1:12 p.m.
The amount of trash left behind was inexcusable. Just because there were a few people responsible enough to try and clean it up does in no way justify it.
Your attempts to deflect the issue saying that junk is left behind at all the beaches in SB is laughable. Yes, people leave trash at every beach. So what? The amount of trash that was left behind on that particular day in IV was probably equal to the amount of trash left behind at all the beaches in SB for the entire year...pathetic.
Really, besides the complete disregard for the environment, the fact that the already cash strapped county had to spends tens of thousands of dollars babysitting, and also the fact that it is now illegal to drink on the beach in IV (which everyone knew was going to happen, and was a direct result of floatopia), I have no problem with it.
If people want to hang out at the beach and have a party, I'm all for it, but if you can't do it responsibly, which they already pretty much proved that they couldn't do, then what did you expect the county to do?
I get it, you love IV and will continue to defend it's good side, but I think you need to be real and admit it has some major flaws as well.
Posted on April 9 at 4:27 p.m.
So all that trash wasn't because of floatopia?.. and your assumption that the fuel drum had nothing to do with it.? nice. defensive much?
I never said that all the trash that washes up on the beach throughout the year was from floatopia. But on that day the majority of the trash was a direct result of it.
I applaud the cleanup efforts, my point was to illustrate what was left behind.
And the stuff that was floating and couldn't be picked up, and whatever ended up on the ocean floor? What about that?