Comments by mesamike
Posted on April 10 at 1:12 p.m.
@pardallchewinggumspot
The amount of trash left behind was inexcusable. Just because there were a few people responsible enough to try and clean it up does in no way justify it.
Your attempts to deflect the issue saying that junk is left behind at all the beaches in SB is laughable. Yes, people leave trash at every beach. So what? The amount of trash that was left behind on that particular day in IV was probably equal to the amount of trash left behind at all the beaches in SB for the entire year...pathetic.
Really, besides the complete disregard for the environment, the fact that the already cash strapped county had to spends tens of thousands of dollars babysitting, and also the fact that it is now illegal to drink on the beach in IV (which everyone knew was going to happen, and was a direct result of floatopia), I have no problem with it.
If people want to hang out at the beach and have a party, I'm all for it, but if you can't do it responsibly, which they already pretty much proved that they couldn't do, then what did you expect the county to do?
I get it, you love IV and will continue to defend it's good side, but I think you need to be real and admit it has some major flaws as well.
Posted on April 9 at 4:27 p.m.
So all that trash wasn't because of floatopia?.. and your assumption that the fuel drum had nothing to do with it.? nice. defensive much?
I never said that all the trash that washes up on the beach throughout the year was from floatopia. But on that day the majority of the trash was a direct result of it.
I applaud the cleanup efforts, my point was to illustrate what was left behind.
And the stuff that was floating and couldn't be picked up, and whatever ended up on the ocean floor? What about that?
Posted on April 9 at 3:28 p.m.
Video of the trash from last years floatopia.
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Posted on December 2 at 4:14 p.m.
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Posted on October 28 at 6:45 p.m.
OK I was finally able to open the pdfs from the city site. It looks like they want to build a quite a bit of new stuff, not just at Elings Park south, but north as well.
At Elings park south here is what they have listed.
"Bicycle Motocross (BMX) Track with night lighting, Park office building and restrooms (1,350 square feet), Disc Golf Course, picnic areas, public pedestrian access and accessibility improvements, paved parking spaces (25 spaces), overflow parking area (approximately 100 spaces),and landscaping.
Special events that could draw 1,000 visitors or more are proposed to occur a maximum of 12 times per year."
The photos in the article look like they were taken from the wilcox property. Maybe trees are blocking where the proposed additions would go?
I do find it kinda funny that the people who have organized the SEPS website have photos on it, at someones house that overlooks the park. It seems a little selfish to me that they would oppose something that is clearly going to benefit the entire community just for the sake of preserving their view. With the added landscaping, who knows, maybe it improves their view?
Posted on September 18 at 1:08 p.m.
"5. Reuse old party decorations, or use the favors as decorations."
"We purchased inflatable earth balls instead of balloons. Bought posters detailing lifecycles to stick in the ground like signs."
???
and were the inflatable earth balls made out of plastic and made in China?
So you tell people to re-use and then you go out and BUY stuff? Sorry, you lost me there.
Posted on April 10 at 1:35 p.m.
Thanks for the facebook 101 lesson ucsbstudent...
Personally I don't really care how it works.
The point is there was 12,000 people on the beach and they trashed the beach and cost the county tens of thousands of dollars to babysit them.
"But unlike Halloween, a majority of the guests were actual Isla Vista residents."
Go Gauchos!
"Nonetheless, the author checked out the beach yesterday, and there was still trash." - Matt Kettman
"There are still thousands upon thousands upon thousands of beer cans for more than a mile," he said. "[Clean-up] efforts may have taken care of 20 to 30 percent of trash refuge but the other 70 percent is still out there." -Daily Nexus
Cleanliness? OK pardallchewinggumspot... I'll give you the benefit of the doubt about the tide, but like lordleadbetter said, he was surfing through the trash for a couple of days after the event. So how do you explain that? People were using the ocean to dump their trash? Ridiculous.
Trying to compare the event to solstice is just a sad attempt to deflect attention away from the issue. At least the organizers of solstice have enough forethought to have plans on how to deal with the amount of trash that their event generates. I've never seen anyone trashing Alameda park like the I.V. beach was.
"A temporary problem at worst." - sa1
Did you read the nexus article?
"I've traveled all over the world for my research, and I've only seen dumping like this in third world countries." :
Have a good time, party all you want, I'm all for it. But is it too much to ask of them to pick up their own trash? This is a pretty basic principle. How many of the 12,000 people that were at the event volunteered and helped clean up?
Posted on April 9 at 4:49 p.m.
Tens of thousands of taxpayers money spent to babysit drunken college kids? Like the county has money to burn? Responsibility falls at the feet of the UCSB Excursion Club. Why should the county foot the bill?
"A seagull gave me a ride down to the beach below Embarcadero/Del Playa this morning... gosh, looks *awfully* clean" - pardallchewinggumspot.
Probably because a week after the event, the tide swept most of the trash that was still left over out to sea genius.
Hey, I'm all for enjoying few beers at the beach, but once it turns into complete disregard for the environment, you've crossed the line. I call people out on that crap all the time, more then I would like to, or should have to.
I guess all the hype claiming that UCSB is some sort of eco-conscious mecca for environmentalism doesn't apply to it's student body, which is obvious to anyone who's been out to I.V. and witnessed the amount of trash that piles up all over the place, including the beach. It's like they've never heard of a trashcan, recycling bin or an ashtray before. Trust me, I've lived out there, and it ain't pretty.
It only took a few hundred idiots for the county to make drinking at Butterfly illegal, so I'm sure that you can look forward to getting another ordinance passed to make it illegal at I.V. beach as well, so good job Floatopia! Way to **** it up for those of us who can have a few beers at the beach and not leave our trash all over the place.
Thanks to the EAB and the rest of the volunteers who did what they could to clean up before the tide swept the rest out to sea. Better not wash up at Mesa Lane or I'll be at the next Floatopia "educating" these kids myself.
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Posted on April 10 at 1:34 p.m.
Maybe if the environment wasn't completely disrespected, and the county wasn't forced to spend $20,000 to babysit the first time, they wouldn't be taking away your "fun".
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