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Posted on July 5 at 1:58 p.m.
To FlatFour,You failed to specify what your Church believes or what Church you belong to. Please tell us how well your constituents know what they believe. It is easy to throw out statements like Mormons know nothing of their history and then fail to back it up. At this point all we have is your undocumented assertions. I will assume you are a Protestant because most persons who make the point you posted are Protestants. Did you know that contrary to what you post Mormons know more about their faith than do Protestants? “Protestants, Catholics and Mormons Reflect Diverse Levels of Religious Activity” - - July 9, 2001 study released by the Barna Research Group of Ventura, California. The study found that Mormons are more likely to read the Bible during a week than are Protestants. The Barna institute for religious studies identified that outside of Sunday church sermons (meaning in the home), Mormons were more likely to have read the bible (not the Book of Mormon, but the Bible) than any other religion polled. A national 2010 Pew Forum on Religion & Public Life survey aimed to test a broad range of religious knowledge, including understanding of the Bible, core teachings of different faiths and major figures in religious history: on questions about Christianity and the Bible, Mormons scored the highest. They also scored second only to Jews in knowledge of Judaism. Overall, Mormons understand their own doctrines and the Bible better than other Christian denominations.It is so easy to throw out junk as you have. I say you dress funny and your mother does not like you.
On Mormons and Their Religion: A Brief Portrayal
Posted on July 5 at 1:34 p.m.
To Doc Dan,You did not address the point of God giving David’s WIVES to another. Again, your misplaced revulsion of polygamy does not explain how God could be an accomplice to polygamy by giving David’s wives to a neighbor. The very fact that God did this gives sanction to having more than one wife at a time. Your right about Keturah she is designated as both a wife and a concubine. But you still don’t get it; whether she was one or the other Abraham was having sexual relations with more than person at a time. David was found righteous before God while having multiple wives (or concubines if you wish) as was Solomon. Only when they committed other sins did God reject them.You will notice in at least one place in the Scripture Keturah is designated a wife. Why you would dispute the Scripture on this subject is hard to say. If I was defining why she was called both, I would guess that at one time or another she may have been both. You should have more faith in the God’s word than you seem to have.Finely, as I have stated above your displeasure with Mormon’s not allowing blacks to hold the Priesthood until the 70’s does not compare with God having only one chosen people for over 1000 years. Will you please address and solve this problem before you condemn LDS, then I will give some credence to your presently flawed augments.
Posted on July 4 at 6:40 a.m.
I would define the New Testament Church as a body of believers, with authority from God. There were many who tried to define the church but lacked the witness and authority of the apostles. In other words it is the same today many calling themselves a true Christian but lack a source of truely knowing God's will. Of course we have the Bible but in the NT church a true understanding of God's teachings came from 3 sources, i.e. Scripture, the Apostles and the Holy Spirit. After the death of the Christ and his Apostles came chaos.
Posted on July 3 at 10:58 p.m.
To Dr Dan Sorry your search was wrong, don't know why some people shoot from the hip so much.Abraham had three wives, not two as your source says: Sahah, Hargar and Keturah. Secondly I did not quote the our 3rd Article of Faith some one else did. Go back to sleep.
Posted on July 3 at 2:56 p.m.
Thomas, I will assume you are a believing Christian and answer your objections to The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints (Mormons) with that in mind. Your distain for polygamy is unfounded and you do not have the same opinion of it as the God of the Old Testament. God did not condemn its practice in fact he endorsed it. See 2Samuel 12: 7-11, here David’s wives are taken from him and given to his neighbor, not just to provide for them but to be his literal his wives. You may denounce having more than one wife at a time but God did not. Some of the most faithful persons in the OT had multiply wives (Abraham, Jacob, Moses). Besides why do you care if Mormons believe it is possible to have additional wives in the afterlife? If Mormons are wrong about this do you believe it will be permitted just because they teach it. What’s you logic on this???? Again the subject of withholding the priesthood from some; don’t you recall from reading the New Testament that Christ said he was sent only to the house of Israel? Non Jews were deprived rites of the priesthood and where not allowed to enter the temple during Christ time. It was not until Acts 10th chapter that non Jews (gentiles) were taught and allowed membership in the New Testament church. The non Jew was keep from participating in the Law of Moses for over 1000 years. Does this make you angry at God the same way you are angry at Mormons????Persons in the Old Testament times also were required to be worthy to participate in the saving ordinances under the Law of Moses. And there were worthiness requirements just as the LDS Church has today. See Psalms 24 and Ezekiel 44. All churches teach they are “true” that does not mean we endorse holy wars on those who don’t believe as we do. What would you expect someone to say we are not the true Church?????Perhaps you have forgotten the terrible things done to Protestants and Catholics to each other? You need to ask yourself why all the misplaced anger towards LDS.
Posted on July 3 at 1:54 p.m.
To Texas Thompson: Your reasoning is spurious at best. If the Constitution was a correct doctrine there would be complete agreement among all Americans on its execution. Right? What Christians do believe is that Christ came to save mankind. Why do you bother to condemn Mormonism (The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints) when you believe all 38,000 Christian churches are likewise erroneous? Just because you find no value in the writings of the LDS Church is hardly the endorsement of the most knowledgeable persons in the universe.How do we know you are not the credulous one? Give the Savior a little room in your life and you may find happiness you currently no nothing about.
Posted on July 3 at 1:33 p.m.
To “spiritwalker” you do need a lot of correction. You have heard a few beliefs of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints (Mormons), distorted them and made ridiculous conclusions. Before you comment and embarrass yourself as you have done here you may wish to study the subject first. May I suggest mormon.com for a more complete understanding of Mormonism?First of all we believe in a literal resurrection of the body and not in reincarnation. If you are not familiar with this Christian doctrine I propose you read the Bible, particularly the New Testament. You are correct when you say we (Mormons) believe that mankind may develop some of the attributes of Christ and God the Father when resurrected; after all Christ said “be ye perfect even as your Father in heaven is perfect. This is also a well know teaching of the Bible identified as Theosis. Mormons are not alone in teaching this doctrine. Millions of Orthodox Christians likewise endorse it. There are many verses in the Bible that will in lighten you on the subject. Here are a few ( Psalms 82:1, 6-7, 1 John 3:1-3, 2 Peter 1:2-4, Philippians 2:5-6, Romans 8:15-17, and Revelation 4:21; 21:7) We believe all may thus be blessed hence it is silly to think our children will worship us since they too may obtain to the blessings Christ promised to his followers.We do genealogy to bring the ordinances to those who did not have the opportunity to receive them on Earth. For instance the Bible teaches that “he that believes and is baptized will be saved”. Paul also taught “Else what shall they do that are baptize for the dead if the dead to not rise at all” (1Corthians 15:29). We believe that missionary work continues in the world of departed spirits and those who we baptize (on their behalf) and accept the teachings of Christ will have the same opportunity for salvation as those who received the Gospel in this life. (1Peter 3:18-21) It has nothing to do with the worship of anyone. Do you suppose that Catholics believe if a child is baptized on the earth the recipient has to worship that Priest for eternity? If not, why do suspect that Mormons have such distorted view of the afterlife? About Romney- do you have any proof, other it is what you believe, that he is a fanatic or megalomaniac? Where did you get your degree in Psychology? You sound more like a person that is nothing more than an uninformed critic who needs to study things out a little more before spouting off.
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