Carp Residents Protest Measure J

What is going on in Gulf of Mexico is horrible, Some photos make you sick of this oil spill. What are they still doing? I received an email from a friend that if you are affected from the oil spill and would like to claim compensation from oil spill claim center, here is the place http://bit.ly/8Xj11D please forward this to your friends and family affected by this oil spill.

The problem with the No on J is that these residents are not taking responsibility for their use of oil.

I take responsibility for my use of oil, with my car and products I buy. This oil we use has to come from some where and in this case it has to come from my community.

The alternative is to take oil from the Middle East. This is where the USA is killing innocent people for oil and changing an entire society, taking over the government of two nations.

I have accepted my use of oil and recognize that this oil should come from my land, USA, rather than kill people in another country.

I think we have to get out of the Middle East and start today, with this project. I am Yes on J.

I understand the enormous risk we take in drilling, but it is better than killing people. We have to take responsibility for our own oil consumption.

No on J, means Yes to War, Yes to Killing, Yes to Imperialism.

Or, NO on Measure J means Yes to a full and honest Environmental Impact Report with full mitigation measures approved by the elected City Council.

Or, No on J means no to the destruction of jobs, tourism revenue, environmental damage, and death of thousands of animals going on in the Gulf Coast. No on J means we acknowledge that we cannot continue our dependency on oil and recognizes the need for new forms of cleaner, renewable energy.

Considering that the maximum amount of oil that could be extracted from the Paredon oil field is enough to run the United States for ONE DAY, I'm sure voting Yes on J is really going to reduce our dependency on foreign oil and end our wars and killing in the Middle East.

Hi folks,
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The primary issue at this stage has nothing to do with oil.

No on Measure J does not mean that Venoco will not drill. It means that a large corporation will not be permitted to buy its way into greater revenue, will not be able to buy its way into the hearts and minds of the citizens of Carpinteria.

Citizens of Carp, I implore you to consider the motives of a large corporation. What is its primary purpose and function?

Is it to give money to schools, stimulate the local economy and promote environmental solutions?

No, the purpose of a large corporation is to make money, the more the better, and often at any means possible. We have already seen the destruction of the Alaskan coastline, the Gulf of Mexico, the destruction of the rainforest from MacDonald's cattle farming exploits...

Aren't these examples enough to convey that large corporations don't give a spit about the environment if it gets in the way of profit?

Profit is Venoco's motive. Not Carp schools. Not the local Carp economy.

Any conscientious citizen would never allow for a money hungry corporation to simply circumvent all manner of established inspection ordinances and procedures.

A "yes" vote on J concedes power to Venoco to do as they please without standard inspection procedures, robbing Carpinterians of their own power in their own town, their own sacred land.

Please vote "no" on J and help us maintain our authority as citizens to keep large corporations in check.

The more we drill, the more we will use. Stopping the exploits of large oil companies is a first step toward limiting incentive to use oil and giving more incentive to find newer, more compassionate ways of utilizing the resources our Earth and our brilliant minds can and will provide.

im a worker on the rig that would be put there and my family depends on this measure pull your heads out of your tails and help people in this struggling econmy stay working each of you support terroism and war bykeeping dependant on forign oil when your high ideal keep you driving your 50k dollar cars and way of life your all a walking joke. help america work by voting for work for familys.

What is the good if a family has employed providers in a town full of soot and cancer causing chemicals?

Families and particularly children need love, compassion, honnesty and integrity. Children need to be shown these things by example.

Is allowing our city's pre-established inspection protocol to be bought out a way of showing integrity?

Measure J doesn't say no to Venoco absolutely, it simply says "no we won't sell out our standards just because you have money".

Isn't the fact that Venoco is trying to bypass an Environmental Impact Review an obvious sign that they have something to hide?

Dear rsully,
I am sorry if Venoco is telling you that your job hinges on the outcome of tomorrow's vote. I have heard other Venoco employees have been told similar stories, which frankly is a questionable way for a company to 'encourage' its employees to consider a ballot measure. A vote of NO on Measure J does not, in any way, prohibit Venoco from continuing its current operations at its Carpinteria location, so holding a job at that site should be independent of the outcome. Furthermore, a vote of NO on Measure J does not prohibit Venoco from continuing to pursue an oil drilling development, it just means that they will have to do so through the normal channels of application with the City of Carpinteria.
I am sorry to hear the Denver-based corporation is using such tactics of job threats to influence anyone regarding the way one votes on a ballot measure.
Best of luck. Please VOTE NO on Measure J.

WATCH and learn. James Cameron in CNN with Larry King, the BEST explanation yet of the "spill" in the Gulf. NO, it would not happen here like that. And YES, we need the revenue and the oil, here and now. If you don't think so STOP DRIVING SUVs you hypocrites!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BJgFiF...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jl-7oi...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mlPnph...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LVsVGp...

e_male, do you really believe that the choice here is between either

(1) a corporation building an oil platform off Carpinteria; or

(2) perpetuation of imperialist murder?

If you really think that, then I can't blame you for voting yes, but you're insane.

Go get 'em, Carpinteria! Vote "NO" on Measure "J"! I don't live in Carpinteria, so I can't vote for this measure, but I'm pulling for you!

It's so impressive to have read about your peaceful protest on Friday. You are good, honest people with strong convictions about protecting your beautiful coastal town. You're doing the right thing.

Godspeed!

you say venoco hasnt gone thru the right channels ??? a vote by the people is the most honest and straight forward thing in america or have you all forgotten !!! bypassing an enviromental impact ??? do you think the coastal commision can say yea or ney without one ?? do you drive a car ?? use plastics??? where does it come from?? iran , iraq !! you continue to put money in the pockets of terroist to bomb our country and run planes thru our buildings killing our citizens .do you not care about the working mans family ??? the blue collars that has made this country great . you worry about seals being bothered , ignorance blinds you all !!I PERSONALLY WITTNESS A THRIVING SEAL POPULATION AND MULTIPLE BIRTHS ONTHE PLATFORMS EVERY YEAR !!! they are not bothered in the least by noise directly on top of them let alone a rig that would be hundred of yards away in a beautiful lighthouse to reduce noise SO YOUR KIDS WONT BE BOTHERED IN SUMMER SCHOOL. or have your ideals forgotten about your local budgetting problems. you look for your causes in anything and shut out common sense and what is best for the people . the sea water and pot has taken over your small hippe minds. OH YOUR CLEAN BEACHS ARE ONLY CAUSE OF OIL PRODUCTION. VISIT YOUR HISTORY MUSEUM AND SEE WHAT YOUR TOWN WOULD BE LIKE WITHOUT OIL DRILLING . U FOOLS.

e_male, you typify the ignorant thinking about being for Measure J.

Our oil on the central coast doesn't come from the Middle East. In fact, most Californian oil comes from Alaska, Mexico or Canada.

We have EPA standards that disallow Middle Eastern oil to be what is sold here.

Your entire argument for Measure J is flawed, as is the ridiculous assertion that people against the Measure who live in Carpinteria are not taking responsibility for something.

And Rsully, you're even more off base. For much the same reasons, but also the fact that this Measure has far less to do with oil drilling and more to do with the ruin of a small town (environmentally, financially and quality of life) for no discernible benefit that would be worth any of it.