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Posted on February 3 at 8:37 a.m.

Starshine, how gracious to pass such a treasure on to little girls who might not have a Daddy that could or would create such a gift. I'm sure you have many tangible mementos from your father, in addition to all the memories you hold in your mind and heart. Still, this was a truly selfless gesture.

Shame on you, Holly, for your negativity. I imagine that Starshine's pleasure in this object is only increased by her knowledge that it is being enjoyed by children at the shelter.

On Dazzling Dollhouse

Posted on December 16 at 9:30 a.m.

Just because a woman doesn't want her meal dictated to her with a coupon, doesn't mean she's an automatic gold digger! The guy should have just asked her out for the happy hour and left it at that, in my opinion.

I think it's interesting how if a man is attracted to a successful woman, he's just looking for someone who is strong, independent and driven...if a woman is looking for the same thing, she's only interested in money. Maybe she just wants someone who is as successful as she is. Maybe she's looking for someone who isn't interested in her financial success either......

On Single Ladies Lament

Posted on May 14 at 10:59 p.m.

UCCU,
It is clear that you have a very emotional reaction to this article and subsequent comments due to personal issues and experiences. And obviously, to have a group treat your classroom space in such a disrespectful way would be upsetting to anyone. I hope that someone in a position of authority at your school brought attention to this matter -- and that it didn't happen a second time. (I used to be a teacher -- so I understand how annoying it would be to have someone come in and leave the classroom in total disarray!)
I am curious, though, as to what evidence in the article you are pointing to that demonstrates this local club having a lack of "boundaries" or misuse of school property. I didn't see that in the article, in regard to this group in particular. Since the author of the article did not attend any other group in town, I agree, we have limited "evidence" to go on.
If you haven't had the chance to read my earlier post, I urge you to do so. As frustrating as it is to share public space with others -- especially with those we disagree with -- there are certain laws put in place to protect the rights of assembly and of worship in this country. We also have laws that govern our public spaces. At times they may seem annoying but they are in place to protect all of our rights.
Proselytizing is a part of many religions and ideologies. The desire to impart others with "your own" personal beliefs is as old as civilization itself. However, in America, it *is* one of our freedoms (speech). I think the brilliance of the American system of freedom is -- in the end -- what tends to drive us all crazy! And yet -- where would we be without it? I'll take the crazy dude shouting hell and damnation on the corner or the hassle of having to pick up my kid right as the school bell rings to ensure that she doesn't attend a meeting I don't agree with ANY DAY over the alternative.

On Reading, Writing, and Original Sin

Posted on May 14 at 6:27 p.m.

I haven't read every single post, so I apologize if I'm being redundant.
A few points came to mind...
1) The words "separation of church and state" don't appear in the Constitution. They were part of a letter written by Thomas Jefferson to the Danbury Baptists, the context of which deals with religious liberty -- that state legislature shouldn't make a law regarding the establishment of a state religion. The direct quote from the Constitution in regard to a freedom of religion: "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;"
How this should be interpreted is open to scholarly debate. But I'm pretty sure that it doesn't mean religious kids clubs can't meet on school property after school hours -- as long as they aren't violating any actual laws.

2) It is legal for religious groups to hold meetings on public (i.e., community/constituency-owned property). If I'm not mistaken, Calvary Chapel has held its big old Easter shin-dig out at the SB Courthouse sunken gardens. I'm relatively certain that other religious groups have and continue to meet at public spaces. The University (UCSB) here in town (a public institution), for example, allows religious student organizations to hold meetings on campus.
Since these kids clubs hold meetings after school hours, the meetings themselves constitute an assembly of religious individuals meeting freely on public property. I have also learned that children attending the meetings must have a signed parent permission slip to attend. Neither CEF nor the school district, I imagine, want to open themselves up to the possibility of a lawsuit from an angry parent.

3) The author, along with other parents in the Cold Springs School community evidently used a lot of word-of-mouth to communicate their displeasure with the idea of a Good News Kids Club. I'm sure, even if it was subconscious, scare and intimidation tactics were used. (Somehow, I don't believe that all parents felt *exactly* the same as the author.) Therefore, I find it a bit ironic that Ms. Stewart would use the US Constitution (even if it was misquoted) to make her point. Sadly but quite clearly, she curtailed freedom of religion for the Christian students at her school. In her effort to protect the rights of her own child, she violated the Constitutionally-given rights of other children.

On Reading, Writing, and Original Sin

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